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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:22 am    Post subject: double fat strat Reply with quote Report this post to administrator

Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum, and this is my first post. I've read a lot of good info on this site, and now I have a question. I'm just starting to learn guitar, been playing for a couple of months now. I currently have a MIM HHS strat, but the guitar shop near me has a real nice HH American strat. What are your opinions of them? I believe this one has the S1 switch. I'm interested in playing blues, hard rock, classic rock, some heavy stuff. I'm only playing for my own enjoyment, and I just want something that will be very versatile, it doesn't have to sound exactly like the real music I'm trying to play.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to administrator

For blues you'll want HSS as there is no other way to get that middle/neck combination quack and also because a humbucker at the neck might work but it's just not the same thing as a single coil. The HH Strats are not nearly as popular as the HSS for that very reason.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to administrator

Cool, thanks. I do like the HSS configuration, but I heard you could get single coil sound out of the HH.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to administrator

im not sure how the S-1 works on the HH.....but im sure you can split it to make it a sigle coil.....but it wouldnt be placed where the single coil is on a SSS...therefore you could come close to the strat single coil sound...but not really have it...... at the same time that goes for the HSS....i can split mine at the bridge....but because it isnt at the strat angle or spot...it really dont sound like the bridge pick-up on a strat.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to administrator

I just a built an HH project Strat with coil taps. The coil tapped humbucker does not sound like a pure single coil to me, though. That all being said, I love the thing ... lots of tonal possibilities with it. I will post a thread on it sometime soon. I love the HH configuration on Strats ...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to administrator

BMW-KTM wrote:
For blues you'll want HSS as there is no other way to get that middle/neck combination quack and also because a humbucker at the neck might work but it's just not the same thing as a single coil. The HH Strats are not nearly as popular as the HSS for that very reason.
What do most of the Blues greats play. John Lee Hooker, BB. King end the list goes on. I don't think they are HSS configured guitar. It all depends on the sound you want. Most blues guys wanted that bucker sound until the late 70's early 80's when rock and blues blended into different styles of blues.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to administrator

cvilleira wrote:
BMW-KTM wrote:
For blues you'll want HSS as there is no other way to get that middle/neck combination quack and also because a humbucker at the neck might work but it's just not the same thing as a single coil. The HH Strats are not nearly as popular as the HSS for that very reason.
What do most of the Blues greats play. John Lee Hooker, BB. King end the list goes on. I don't think they are HSS configured guitar. It all depends on the sound you want. Most blues guys wanted that bucker sound until the late 70's early 80's when rock and blues blended into different styles of blues.



He also wants to play some hard rock and classic rock and heavy stuff. A bridge bucker can come in quite handy for that. He's best off with what he's already got.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to administrator

cvilleira wrote:
BMW-KTM wrote:
For blues you'll want HSS as there is no other way to get that middle/neck combination quack and also because a humbucker at the neck might work but it's just not the same thing as a single coil. The HH Strats are not nearly as popular as the HSS for that very reason.
What do most of the Blues greats play. John Lee Hooker, BB. King end the list goes on. I don't think they are HSS configured guitar. It all depends on the sound you want. Most blues guys wanted that bucker sound until the late 70's early 80's when rock and blues blended into different styles of blues.



The fact of the matter is that I've seen guys play some truly great blues on all kinds of guitars. LP's, Strats, acoustics and virtually everything in between. Here's a video of a guy doing some slide blues on a guitar made from a -cigar box-;

http://www.youtube.com/user/crunchman007#p/a/1/waiAjvLSHMQ


The point is, there's no "right" or "wrong" guitar for blues. This thing we call "the blues" isn't about a guitar or an amp or any other "gear", it's about feeling and emotion. For example, a little over 2 weeks ago my mother passed away from cancer. 5 days later my wife was in a car accident. Shortly after that, I fell down in the studio...ripped open one shin, banged up both legs, twisted my back. Wednesday I had to go back to court over some really stupid crap involving my house....my list could go on quite a bit longer. In other words, as Buddy Guy once said, "Damn Right I Got The Blues!". Have I been playin'? You betcha! Mostly I've been playing the '85 MIJ Squier Strat I picked up...why this guitar? Because it's my newest toy. I could just as easily been playing my MIM with the Duncan Hot Rails (stacked hb's) and old Les Paul clone I have or my "double fat" Kramer...it doesn't matter. Lately my life has been hard and if you factor in the last 8 years or so, I've seen MORE than my share of crap...I'm simply expressing that through my music. Who really gives a rat's a** what guitar I'm doing it on?


To the OP: If you like your HSS, then play it. If you prefer that double fat and you can afford it, then get it and PLAY IT. The blues is about your heart, your hands and your soul...the gear is the least important aspect of the equation.


This is -just- my $.02 worth,
Jim
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to administrator

Thanks for all the replies, everyone. At this point, I think I'm going to take another look at the HH, and see how I like the sound. If I get it, and really feel that I don't like how it sounds with the single coils, then it gives me an excuse to get a sunburst SSS strat later down the road. Smile But, if I don't like it, I always can keep the one I have, it does sound pretty good. I do play more on the humbucker pickup right now.
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